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Can everything – including vision, flexibility, imagination and other skills often associated with creative practices – be turned into data? Can you automate artistic processes and gestures? And how does socially applied AI enable a transition towards authoritarianism?

During the conversation, we talked about her adventures with the Dutch secret service, with the New York City Police Department, CCTV operators in Liverpool and the art historian who hid Luis Barragán’s professional archives in a Swiss bunker. But we also discussed surveillance, censorship and the privatisation of culture

Expanding upon early 20th-century techno-utopian visions, Heba Y. Amin’s project to sink the Mediterranean and relocate it within the African continent instigates a new vision for Africa and the Middle East by pinpointing what could be attained by and for those most affected by the wars waged for oil, resources and power